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Postby limbo » February 10th, 2007, 10:50 am

Coolit wrote:Hi All,

I've been using Smartie for a while now in XP and love it :) but I've moved to Vista Premium 64bit last night and cant get it working with my parallel 4x20 LCD.

I tried to run port95nt as above ( in compatibility mode/admin) but the install fails stating its not a 64bit application, obviously running Smartie without port95nt being installed doesn't work either. I am however able to run Smartie without error, it just wont connect to my parallel port.

Any ideas?


This caused on 64bit OS... :smt102
This driver is not working on these operating systems.

Maybe the solution is the inpout32.dll but I'm not sure and I don't own any 64bit system to test it
http://www.logix4u.net/inpout32.htm
http://forums.gideontech.com/index.php/topic,30763%20%20%20%20%200%20%20908%2045%200%20%20%20164%201%207955%2016%207%20%203.html
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Postby Coolit » February 10th, 2007, 9:17 pm

hi,

Thanks for the reply, its much appriciated.

I had a look at both links, downloaded the and tried the .dll's but with no joy so I guess I'm stuck until theres a recompile for vista 64bit.
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Postby microtestUK » March 14th, 2007, 11:48 am

Muk wrote:Needed to run the portio installer in winxp compatibility mode to make sure dlportio.sys was copied to win/system32/drivers. Works now but network statistics like upstream/downstream always read 0...


I had similar problems and got around it this way

Alt Click the installer>Properties>Compatibility [TAB]>[TICK]Run this program in compatibility mode for "Windows XP (Service Pack 2)">Show settings for all users>[TICK]Run this program in compatibility mode for "Windows XP (Service Pack 2)">OK>OK

Then run the installer again.
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Postby kup128 » March 24th, 2007, 4:16 am

Hello all!

My first post, am new to the forums.
Recently upgraded to Vista Ultimate (32bit). Just got my LCD working... tis a Parallel HD44780.

One thing that i don't think has been mentioned is that with Vista, you dont need port95, or any other program to initialise the parallel port. I managed to jsut plug mine in... configure LCD Smartie... and i was off!

Great little program by the way.
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Vista x64

Postby Philg » July 11th, 2007, 8:31 pm

For those of you trying to get a parallel LCD working on 64bit Vista with InpOut (x64 version), it will not work.

I ported InpOut32 to XP/2003 x64 but unfortunately Vista x64 requires ALL device drivers to be signed (using a commercial Verisign certificate which is not available (AFAIK) to anyone but commercial software companies - and is not cheap).

So basically, InpOut32/x64 will not work in Vista x64.
Port95NT will not work in any 64bit OS as its only a 32bit driver.

So if you have a parallel LCD and want it to work in Vista, stick to 32bit. My port of InpOut32 (here) can be installed in Vista 32bit (requires a UAC elevation) and used thereafter without UAC elevation - although I guess LCD Smartie requires elevation for other things anyway.

If anyone does find a way to get it going on x64 please let me know - I will do likewise.

Thanks,
Phil
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Good news for Vista x64 users...

Postby Philg » August 1st, 2007, 1:36 am

There have been some updates on Vista x64 and InpOut32.

Essentially, I have managed to use my x64 port of InpOut32 in Vista x64.

Check out my later posts here.

Especially promising is the recent Linchpin Atsiv tool :)

Thanks,
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Postby Philg » March 2nd, 2008, 5:40 pm

Another Vista x64 update...

Th Atsiv tool I mentioned above was blocked by MS as soon as it became "known" about so that was pretty much a non-starter.

I had a little success running a self signed x64 driver in test mode - but who really wants to do that. I could see no future without buying a certificate (something which I was not keen on seeing as I don't actually need this solution any more since I have a MX410 which worked).

Then along came WinRing0. An Open source alternative to InpOut32 and Port95NT that comes with a signed 64bit driver. Yay.

The only issue, LCDSmartie does/can not use this as a drop in replacement because the API is slightly different.

So I have written a InpOut32 stud dll that passes the calls directly to the WinRing0 DLLs. This works, on all current OS's (inc. Vista SP1 x64 and Server 2008 x64).

for more info and the download goto my inpout32 pages
http://www.highrez.co.uk/Downloads/InpOut32/

Thanks,
Phil
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Postby Zero>1 » March 8th, 2008, 4:35 pm

big thanks to you.after a half year my lcd now runs with vist64 again.
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Postby twhyman » August 2nd, 2008, 1:08 am

Philg wrote:Another Vista x64 update...
.....
Thanks,
Phil


Thanks alot for the update i will check it and report back, my tiny beloved LCD was the only thing stopping me from going 64bit.

i went from 64 to 32 the moment microsoft blocked the option to use unsigned drivers.

Great job!

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Postby iscarelli » September 11th, 2008, 2:19 am

Philg wrote:Another Vista x64 update...

Th Atsiv tool I mentioned above was blocked by MS as soon as it became "known" about so that was pretty much a non-starter.

I had a little success running a self signed x64 driver in test mode - but who really wants to do that. I could see no future without buying a certificate (something which I was not keen on seeing as I don't actually need this solution any more since I have a MX410 which worked).

Then along came WinRing0. An Open source alternative to InpOut32 and Port95NT that comes with a signed 64bit driver. Yay.

The only issue, LCDSmartie does/can not use this as a drop in replacement because the API is slightly different.

So I have written a InpOut32 stud dll that passes the calls directly to the WinRing0 DLLs. This works, on all current OS's (inc. Vista SP1 x64 and Server 2008 x64).

for more info and the download goto my inpout32 pages
http://www.highrez.co.uk/Downloads/InpOut32/

Thanks,
Phil


Hi!

You Dll works with PCI Parallel cards (not default IO address)?

[]'s
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VISTA 64bit - does it work

Postby newbie007 » November 2nd, 2008, 10:32 pm

Hi

So can LCDSmartie work on 64bit VISTA - if so has anyone got the steps to make it work ?

Thanks
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Postby caesar » November 2nd, 2008, 11:12 pm

Smartie works with Vista 64, special needs arise only when using parallel displays.

For parallel port connected displays you must install inpout32 1.2.0.0 from here: http://www.highrez.co.uk/Downloads/InpOut32/

Thanks Philg for this new driver and Warren for signing the drivers so that they work fine on Vista 64.
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Postby GizmoTheGreen » November 19th, 2008, 10:03 pm

Hi!

I'm new here and I'm having ttouble with Vista x64.
I've wired my parallel lcd (2x20) correctly, I verified on another Vista computer (32 bit OS on this one).

Ive tried installing Philg's driver (1.2.0.0) but still no luck.

My case is a little special, I'm using a motherboard from Gigabyte, and it's LPT port is on pins on the board, I made my own adapter using a floppy cable and a DB25 female (solder fuck yeah).

I've tripple double checked and my soldered LPT adapter is soldered correctly, I used pinouts from Gigabytes motherboard manual and the LPT one from pinouts.ru, it was pretty simple

pins:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? _ ? <-- 12 pins
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <-- 13 pins = 25

So I'ts basically an LPT port upside down.
I've verified my adapter is turning correctly.

If anyone know of a LiveXP that can run SmartiLCD and it will work, give me a link to it so I can try, this way I could REALLy verify my adapter is correct and the issue I'm having is with the inpout32.dll

Thank you

EDIT: Oh yeah, I'm using the latest stable release, not the beta if that matters
EDIT2: HEY WTF!
I was reading this other topic here http://forums.lcdsmartie.org/viewtopic.php?t=1722

I changed LPT1 to $cc00, no go, then $c800, still no go, then i changed it to $378 and... you guessed it... GO!

It's f*****g working!
thanks anyway
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Postby caesar » November 20th, 2008, 12:03 am

Glad you sorted it out, specifing port address is a must with Vista x64!

I see you were really happy.
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Postby GizmoTheGreen » November 20th, 2008, 8:00 am

Yeah I am, haha :D
I might give it a shot making plugins later
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